Re: [LAN] Need a lookup at Manchester City Library
Hi Anthony,
The death cert is very unspecific and the person registering the death
probably didn't know anyway. If she had been married it was probably during
WW1 as she was certainly widowed/separated or divorced by 1930. As for my
father in laws marriage cert, he stated it was a DE MONTI, which we know was
not correct. The name DE MONTI was given to him by Glorie and has no
connection at all to my father in law's real parents. We suspect he never
knew of his 'real' parents, and he never spoke of them. Once he left home
at about age 15 he never went back and had no ongoing relationship with
Glorie.
I will email the library and see what they say regarding access and if they
will do a quick lookup.
Thanks,
Bob
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From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Antony Lambert
Sent: 31 August 2010 07:47
To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LAN] Need a lookup at Manchester City Library
If you have her death certificate, then my guess is she did not marry.
If she had done, the death cert would have stated widow of/wife of........
as appropriate depending on whether or not Mt M was still alive.
You didn't say what was on your father's marriage cert for his father. If
adopted, it SHOULD state his adoptive father, if not, his real one, if
known.
Manchester City Library ( in the Town Hall Extention) do have the film you
want.
<<
are now available in the Manchester Room at City Library, rather than at
Greater Manchester County Record Office.
These include:
.Electronic resources including access to Ancestry.com, Find My Past,
Manchester Burials Online and CD-ROMs
.General Register Office microfiche of births, marriages and deaths
.the microfiche Adoptions Index
.the microfiche Overseas Index>>>
Manchester Local Studies is of course closed at present, but they used to do
look ups for folk, if it took less than 15 mins.
Why not try e mailing the new City Library
libraries@manchester.gov.uk
Good Luck
Antony Lambert
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From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Bond
Sent: 31 August 2010 07:15
To: huntingdons@btinternet.com; lancsgen@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LAN] Need a lookup at Manchester City Library
Thanks Bernard & Anthony
My understanding is that the 'Index' is available to view, but unlike the
regular BMD Index it is only available to view in a few locations. This is
what is shown on the Direct Gov website:
Viewing the General Register Office indexes
You can view GRO indexes online through several specialist organisations and
websites, or you can view the indexes at a library or office in your area.
Viewing full copies of the indexes
Copies of the indexes can no longer be purchased but a complete set,
including 'Births, Deaths and Marriages from 1837 - 2008', 'Overseas from
1761 - 2008', 'Civil Partnerships from 2005 - 2009', 'Adoptions from 1927 -
2008', and the provisional indexes for 'Births and Deaths for 2009', is
available at:
.Manchester City Library
.Birmingham Central Library
.Bridgend Reference and Information Library
.Plymouth Central Library
.City of Westminster Archives Centre
.London Metropolitan Archives
.The British Library*
We do not know his birth name, but the Adoption Index will give us a
'reference number' with which to apply for a adoption certificate. We can
then follow the trail from there. If he was adopted that is, and not just
fostered. But we need to check.
The death you found in 1967 is Glorie MONTGOMERY who brought up my father.
We have her birth and death certificates. Her maiden name was MONTGOMERY
and she was born in Scotland. As for a marriage for GCM we are currently
working on the theory that she may have married outside the UK. The use of
the name DE MONTI came about between 1916 and 1930. It is possible that she
served in France/Belgium during WW1 and married there. Only a possibility I
know, but we have very little to go on at this stage.
So if anyone going to the Library could check it out for use it would be
very helpful.
Thanks,
Lynn
-----Original Message-----
From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com]
On Behalf Of Huntingdons
Sent: 30 August 2010 22:23
To: lancsgen@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [LAN] Need a lookup at Manchester City Library
Hi Lynn
That GRO Index is not open to view, you need to go through the "Adoption
Contact
Register" http://tinyurl.com/yjk9pqp to get that sort of information - even
then
both the birth and adoption families would have to have registered and
agreed to
contact. A fuller explanation and links sent direct.
Bernard.
-----Original Message-----
From: lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com
[mailto:lancsgen-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Bob Bond
Sent: 30 August 2010 19:37
To: LANCSGEN@rootsweb.com
Subject: [LAN] Need a lookup at Manchester City Library
Hi List,
If anyone is going to the Manchester City Library I need a bit of help. If
someone has the time to lookup on the 'GRO Adoption Index' for a couple of
names. David E MONTGOMERY and David E DE MONTI or Pierre E MONTGOMERY or
Pierre E DE MONTI. The date range would be after July 1935 to probably no
later than 1939. My late father Pierre DE MONTI was born 23 July 1935, but
we can find no birth registration on the ordinary GRO Birth Index. From our
research we now wonder if he had been adopted by a Glorie Cecilia MONTGOMERY
who also called herself Glorie DE MONTI. He was brought up in Essex then
moved to Westmorland in about 1959. We have searched and searched for his
birth to no avail and now wonder (hope) he was adopted. Any help on this
would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Lynn
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